Todd Rogers records finally removed from TG... only took them ages to do so when they are very blatant....
heres most of his bogus records... you have to see for yourself how one can be so blind to believe any of it...
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heres most of his bogus records... you have to see for yourself how one can be so blind to believe any of it...
Summary Decision:
Based on the complete body of evidence presented in this official dispute thread, Twin Galaxies administrative staff has unanimously decided to remove all of Todd Rogers� scores as well as ban him from participating in our competitive leaderboards.
We have notified Guinness World Records of our decision.
In 1982, Activision verified and authenticated Todd Rogers� Dragster score time of 5.51. They later published this score as being confirmed in their official newsletter.
In 2001, the historic score was imported into the Twin Galaxies score database. The score was eventually recognized by Guinness World Records.
On 8-11-2017 Twin Galaxies member Dick Moreland ( @D.B. Cooper ) officially disputed the validity of Todd Rogers� Atari 2600 Dragster score time of 5.51 seconds on the basis of programmatically-demonstrated impossibility, citing the analysis and conclusion work of Eric Koziel ( @Omnigamer ) as supportive evidence for his claim.
The presented software analysis model concluded that achieving score times of less than 5.57 seconds is not possible under standard and normal play conditions.
Further evidence has been presented in this investigation from numerous credible sources confirming the veracity of this software model and analysis conclusion.
The recent detailed first-person testimony provided by a former Twin Galaxies referee directly into this dispute thread has provided us additional reasoning for our ruling on this matter and has also given Twin Galaxies no reason to further explore any theoretical edge case exception scenarios regarding the software analysis conclusion that a 5.51 is impossible.
Beyond the software analysis evidence, which speaks directly to Todd Rogers� Dragster 5.51 score time, this dispute case has collected a significant amount of circumstantial evidence as that extends well beyond Todd�s single score performance.
We have evaluated this evidence carefully and found it to be compelling and relevant.
Throughout this investigation, Todd Rogers had the opportunity to answer questions and contribute.
We cannot change Activision's acknowledgement of this score but we have an overall responsibility for gaming achievements and can no longer accept their historical records as the sole justification for scores set at the time. We were not there, can not find any of the evidentiary materials they used at the time to confirm the score, and could not find anyone who would on-the-record testify that they directly saw the evidence that was presented to Activision.
Twin Galaxies would like to give a huge thank you to all involved in this dispute. Our community, the Speed Run community, @D.B. Cooper and @Omnigamer specifically and many many others have contributed tremendously and deserve proper and full recognition.
This has been an ordeal, and like all things done for the first time, some things could perhaps have been handled better. This has been a learning process for Twin Galaxies. We care very much about our scoreboard integrity and will continue to improve it step-by-step, no matter how painful it might occasionally be.
Twin Galaxies is dedicated to absolutely rooting out invalid scores from our historic database wherever we find them.
Twin Galaxies� recent efforts to build a dispute system for the purpose of allowing scores to be questioned in a centralized and documented manner have enabled all of the available evidence regarding Todd's Dragster score to finally, after many years, be concentrated, examined and discussed by non-anonymous members of the gaming community and Twin Galaxies administration. This system has created a permanent body of evidence for examination.
Anyone looking into their own past with honesty and a desire to improve will likely find things potentially messy and uncomfortable. Twin Galaxies has definitely experienced some of that here with this dispute. However, Twin Galaxies understands that this is a required in order for it to continue its commitment to accuracy. Unfortunately this cannot occur overnight and must be a step-by-step process.
We definitely know that many in the gaming community operate with a general urgency and would have preferred to see this matter resolved more swiftly.
However, Twin Galaxies, as part of a comprehensive process and in its position of authority, must ensure due diligence. Our public documentation of our processes and conclusions are intended to satisfy scrutiny for the long term, so in instances where warranted our comprehensiveness must go above and beyond what would normally satisfy.
Our methodic approach has allowed many things to surface, not only related to this specific score, but other scores as well as some previously never-before-discussed video game related history.
The truth is the priority. That is the concern. Whatever it takes.
Twin Galaxies continues to strive to earn and maintain trust over time by making supportable decisions and taking sensible actions.
Based on the complete body of evidence presented in this official dispute thread, Twin Galaxies administrative staff has unanimously decided to remove all of Todd Rogers� scores as well as ban him from participating in our competitive leaderboards.
We have notified Guinness World Records of our decision.
In 1982, Activision verified and authenticated Todd Rogers� Dragster score time of 5.51. They later published this score as being confirmed in their official newsletter.
In 2001, the historic score was imported into the Twin Galaxies score database. The score was eventually recognized by Guinness World Records.
On 8-11-2017 Twin Galaxies member Dick Moreland ( @D.B. Cooper ) officially disputed the validity of Todd Rogers� Atari 2600 Dragster score time of 5.51 seconds on the basis of programmatically-demonstrated impossibility, citing the analysis and conclusion work of Eric Koziel ( @Omnigamer ) as supportive evidence for his claim.
The presented software analysis model concluded that achieving score times of less than 5.57 seconds is not possible under standard and normal play conditions.
Further evidence has been presented in this investigation from numerous credible sources confirming the veracity of this software model and analysis conclusion.
The recent detailed first-person testimony provided by a former Twin Galaxies referee directly into this dispute thread has provided us additional reasoning for our ruling on this matter and has also given Twin Galaxies no reason to further explore any theoretical edge case exception scenarios regarding the software analysis conclusion that a 5.51 is impossible.
Beyond the software analysis evidence, which speaks directly to Todd Rogers� Dragster 5.51 score time, this dispute case has collected a significant amount of circumstantial evidence as that extends well beyond Todd�s single score performance.
We have evaluated this evidence carefully and found it to be compelling and relevant.
Throughout this investigation, Todd Rogers had the opportunity to answer questions and contribute.
We cannot change Activision's acknowledgement of this score but we have an overall responsibility for gaming achievements and can no longer accept their historical records as the sole justification for scores set at the time. We were not there, can not find any of the evidentiary materials they used at the time to confirm the score, and could not find anyone who would on-the-record testify that they directly saw the evidence that was presented to Activision.
Twin Galaxies would like to give a huge thank you to all involved in this dispute. Our community, the Speed Run community, @D.B. Cooper and @Omnigamer specifically and many many others have contributed tremendously and deserve proper and full recognition.
This has been an ordeal, and like all things done for the first time, some things could perhaps have been handled better. This has been a learning process for Twin Galaxies. We care very much about our scoreboard integrity and will continue to improve it step-by-step, no matter how painful it might occasionally be.
Twin Galaxies is dedicated to absolutely rooting out invalid scores from our historic database wherever we find them.
Twin Galaxies� recent efforts to build a dispute system for the purpose of allowing scores to be questioned in a centralized and documented manner have enabled all of the available evidence regarding Todd's Dragster score to finally, after many years, be concentrated, examined and discussed by non-anonymous members of the gaming community and Twin Galaxies administration. This system has created a permanent body of evidence for examination.
Anyone looking into their own past with honesty and a desire to improve will likely find things potentially messy and uncomfortable. Twin Galaxies has definitely experienced some of that here with this dispute. However, Twin Galaxies understands that this is a required in order for it to continue its commitment to accuracy. Unfortunately this cannot occur overnight and must be a step-by-step process.
We definitely know that many in the gaming community operate with a general urgency and would have preferred to see this matter resolved more swiftly.
However, Twin Galaxies, as part of a comprehensive process and in its position of authority, must ensure due diligence. Our public documentation of our processes and conclusions are intended to satisfy scrutiny for the long term, so in instances where warranted our comprehensiveness must go above and beyond what would normally satisfy.
Our methodic approach has allowed many things to surface, not only related to this specific score, but other scores as well as some previously never-before-discussed video game related history.
The truth is the priority. That is the concern. Whatever it takes.
Twin Galaxies continues to strive to earn and maintain trust over time by making supportable decisions and taking sensible actions.
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