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  • Shining Force 2 Notes for the Speedrun/Guide Working on it

    Ok this if my First guide and it includes my notes for the Shining Force 2 Steamversion Speedrun.
    im Sure that this notes can be used in the genesis version as well^^

    First of all i would recommend that you have played through the a few times so that you know the Names of the Places and the rough line where you need to go.

    So let me try my best to get everything together now:

    Granseal: the Main town, after heading to the School and talk with Sarah and Asthral you will ned to go to the Castle and after that into the Tower to get the First battle.
    First Battle is pretty selfexplaining: Kill all Gizmos and you will be fine (Note for the cookie cutters between us: Chester only needs 40EP in this battle)

    After the battle you will need to hurry back into the Bedroom of the King and see the Cutcene.
    after the Cutcene walk out and go to the Weaponmerchant to buy an Sword for Bowie and an Spear for Chester.
    Get Jaha and enter the second battle.
    Kill every enemy in this battle, afterwards go south to the Shrine and pick up the PowerWater (use it on Sarah) and the Mithrill int he mountain. After that was completed get Kazin and fight battle Nr3 (again kill everything)

    After the Cutcene in Hawels house Kazin joins you and you enter Battle4.
    Battle4 is an short one, jut get Bowie killed without taking damage on someone else or killing something (Maybe get an Blaze of Kazin for some EP he will need it in the next Battle)

    GalamCastle: After the Cutcene where you find out that Slade stole the Yewels jump into the tunnel and right after landing search the wall atop of oyu for another mithrill. Make sure everyone in youre team has one free slot because u will need it in the next battle.
    Follow the Tunnel and stairs to the great hall where you will see the Galam Army leave and you will get the next Battle here.

    Battle5: Goal is to kill the Galam knight, get the Rod from the first Galam mage and bring kazin up to LVL 5 for Blaze2.
    usualy u only need to kill 4 enemys and the Knight to archive that goals. (if Kazin has used Blaze in battle 4 once it will be easyer to get him to lvl 5)

    After the Battle Slade will join the party, head out of the castle and get Battle6.
    Battle6 is the same procedure as everytime: Kill all enemys and have fun ;P
    back at Granseal you head straight into the Castle where you will find the Kind, Minister and astral facing Lemon.
    Astral and Lemon are heading into the Tower where you (with King and Minister) will folow them.

    The tower is a little bit of driving situation with an battle in the end.
    Battle7: Kill everything and make sure you loos as few poeple as possible. Note: The smokes are pretty strong, Kazin is an good choice for high damage on them.

    After an cutcene you will head out of the tower, in the entrance of the castle you will find to soldiers falling into an Chasm. To youre right is an hole, grab the Mithrill in the hole and go to the port. On the ship grab the quick chicken and head of to the Mainland.

    Granseal Island completed


    Proceding with South parmecia:

    First battle on parmecia just kill everything and try to level up as best as you can. After the Battle you will find that the Ship is destroyed and an City has been build.

    New Granseal: After the talk with the king head left of the Throneroom and pick the Cheerfull bread, then go out of the Town just to find an Bird, get in row and see the scene. Now its castle time again^^ with Peter in the Group go to the Weapon merchant and buy an Sword, Axe and an Spear.

    Parmecia Battle2: Just kill everything and head to Ribble.
    Ribble: Go into the northernmost building and get yelled at, after that the City is open and you can do things. Get the Mithrill out of the Sandbox (whatever its doing there), buy an new dagger for Slade and Recruite May.

    heading south along the Mountains you will head into another Battle

    Parmecia Battle 3: just as usual you need to kill everything but 2 things are importand here: 1 Enemy carries the Power ring (+5 ATK) and you shouldnt loose anyone here because it takes too much time to go back to ribble and ressurect them.

    Head on and you will get into the Dark Cave:
    Yeah darkness battles are annoying in this game... but Kill all enemys and you will be fine.
    Take the Silvertan out of the Chest in the east end of the Cave and head out to Polca Village.

    In Polca ressurect all fallen members and get the Protect milk out of the room beneath the Merchants shop, then head to Mt. Volcano.

    Battle of Mt Volcano: The mainman is the Archer, if he dies the battle is won.
    Mt. Volcano:
    -buy in the second floor Axe, Knife, lance (dont sell the Spear), Arrow, Rod (only for Sarah) and an Spear
    - Third floor has the Quick ring in an Vase in the southeast
    Then head up to the Throneroom talk to king Bedoe and Volcano afterwards. talk to King bedoe again and head to Polca Village to get the next battle.

    Battle of Polca: The Mage is the Boss of this Battle (and god knows why he is), you have controll of Peter now and Gerhald has joined you
    afterwards talk to the Mayor several times to get the Raft, he will give you Oddler as well.
    Outside of Polca Luke will join.

    With the Raft we will drive down the stream and after the cave entrance leave to the Heast by foot (so that the River is above you and you can get to the cave with the Old man).
    Battle in the Desert: Awfull battle where you have to kill everything.
    In the Cave you have to Talk to Pedros Grandfather and get the Steel sword (Equip it to Luke with the Power ring)
    then head back to the other Cave entrance we came by with the raft.

    Battle of the Ancient cavern: here the Boss is the Arrow launcher northern most. You can archive an Quick kill with Luke and Peter (have Steel sword an power ring on Luke and use the Ring on Peter). If that one fails just kill youre way through him ;P

    In the cave you will get the Wooden pannels and an power water (id say give it to Slade but thats up to you viable options are Slade/Peter/Bowie)
    Ribble: Put the Wooden pannels into the tree and get the Ancient Sword.
    Now follow the stream to the Ocean (soughwest) with the Raft to get the Krakenbattle.
    Here Luke and Peter will shine again (just make sure the power ring doesnt break). kill the Head and everything will be fine.

    Porttown of Hassan will be next: First ress everybody then go boy following things: Axe, Knife, Arrow and an powerstick.
    You will find an running Piemento in the Tavern (Give it to sarah), an Mithril is in the West and one is in an barrel on the Landing Stage and give the Power ring to Bowie.
    After all that is done talk to Rhode in his house (with the achilles sword he will follow you).
    Now head to the Taros shrine:
    Oasis battle: Kill everything and get some levels up, Bowie should be lvl 19/20 after the battle.
    Taros Shrine: The Big guy in the back is the Boss here (who wouldve thought that-.-) but you will surely have to wipe out everything because ONLY Bowie can atack him with the Achilles sword...
    An Annoying battle wich is neccecary.

    After you obtained the Caravan its Hassan again:
    -Recruit Rick who stands at the Entrance
    -ressurect the Fallen
    -Promote the first people if possible
    -Talk to the Merchant at the Entrance
    -Sell the Achilles sword and buy: 2 Sowrds (only for promoted Chars (Slade and Bowie)) 2 Arrows (only for Promoted chars(May and Elric)), 2 Spears and an Glove if Sarah is close enough to promotion in the next few battles (meaning before the Willard Battle)

    head for the Elfen village:
    get the secret book out of the Bookstand and the Vigor ball out of the chest in the Northwest.
    Escape the ElfenVillageBattle via walking near the mountains in the north and head to the Harpy pond.

    Harpy Pond Battle: This is an Rough one... you need to kill every monster here and the Harpys are damn strong, after the Battle Elric will join.
    If needet go and ress/promo Chars after the battle then go into the Pond again, Elric will open the Passage to Creeds.
    In the passage be sure to get the Brave apple and keep it.

    Battle of Creeds: Good battle just kill the Skeleton next the Creeds mansion and the Battle is won, you can gain an protect ring here (Kazin loves that one).
    Creeds Mansion: Before entering go left of the Bridge to get an healing Rain (AAA Item dont use it before the Battle of Zeon) then go inside and get small ;P

    in the Smallworld look that you Ress everybody and Promote as many as possible (Kazin with the Secret Book, Sarah with Vigor Ball and Elric with Silver tank) and Equip everyone with the best weapons.
    Chessbattle: Well its Chess kill the King and win, but thats not easy. You can bait him out and quickkill him.

    Afterwards get the Parashutes and go to the "Floorworld" where you will go into the wall to fight Willard.
    Willard Battle: Good Battle to gain some Levels, kill Willard (red Rat) and it will be over.
    After the battle head out for Creed and an longer cutscene.
    Cutscene os over you will take the Fairy with you and take Karna as an gift from Creed.

    head now to the Dwarfen mine (little bit northeast of elven village) and get the Drystone and the cannon (Bowie needs an free slot otherwise the Dwarves wount hand it over) then go to new Granseal again.
    In the Castle Astrall will join you as an Advisor.
    head to the Weaponsmerchant then and get: Swords, Arrows, Glove, Lances, 2 GuardianStaffs and if Jaha was Promoted an axe for him ;P
    Outside of the Merchants house is an Dwarf who will give you Dynamite (only with Astralls permission) so that you can blow the entrance of the cave open.
    Go to the Cave wich leads to north Parmecia again (same place as first battle of Parmecia)

    Another Battle here, just kill everything and get some levels but be aware of the Lesser daemons (Blaze LVL 3 can hurt). after the battle Rhode will blow the entrance free and join you as an brass gunner. In the cave again an Darkness Battle (Luckily the last one) where you need to kill every enemy.

    Congratulations on surviving the second part of the Game aka South Parmecia ;P

    First Town in north parmecia is unimportend (and i forgot the name) you just ress everybody there an move on to an Cutscene with Geshp and Higgins.
    In this battle you have to kill the northern most Lizardmen (and hes an tough one) to win.

    Then you will get Higgins wich you ditch emediatly... but you will give his spear to one of you Horsemen. Go to Pacalon and get the Cheerfull Bread and some weapons (Arrows, an Spear and Swords).
    Head north to get another Battle where you have to kill the Northern most Lizardman (again ;P) to move on. Take the northroute over the mountains where you can find an Mithrill on youre way to the bridge where is the next battle.
    battle of the Bridge: Youre goal is to kill the Wizard here, beware of the Wyverns and te Worms they hit like an train.

    After the Bridge you are free to go to Tristan, where you will save the game and get some new Gloves for Sarah.
    The battle infront of the Shrine can be hard sometimes but after the knight dies its over.
    in the Shrine Zalbard will await you, one of the grater devils. Zalbards Bolt2 is more then annoying and the battle isnt easy but doable.

    When the battle of over you will meet Mitula and are free to roam around here, take the Mithrill and the Critical Sword out of the Chests and take the left door. In here you will get the Power water and Taya. Give Taya the brave apple so she learns Apollo right away and put that to use^^
    Give her also one of the Guardian Staffs (its weaker in ATK but boosts the Deff so its ok she will cast most of the time)

    Back in Pacalon you will get Freyja out of the castle and have an battle in the City.
    Kill the Daemon Soldier in the South ant the battle os over.
    Now you will use Egress to port back to Tristan (thats why you should save there) and go from Tristan to Moun (you will have skipped the Jaro battle wich will save quite some time)
    Before moun make sure you have an empty spot in youre party so that Freyja joins without sending the wrong one away (usualy cast out Rick at this point) and then you go kill the Shaman in the NorthEast of Moun to win the battle.

    When the Battle is over you will meet Zynk and get Gyan to join you, dont forget the Running Piemento in the casked near Gyan. ress everybody and go to the Nazcaship outside where cameela is waiting for you.

    Another Greater devil awayts you here in the form if Cameela, after she is gone you will obtain the SkyOrb and be able to fly to Granseal again. In The Nazcaship is the nazcacannon an very good arrow for one of youre archers.

    YAY North Parmecia is finished

    After an loner Cutscene (and an toilet break for me most of the time^^) you will land on Granseal island. Head east to the Dojo where you will gain another Vigor Ball with wich you will promote karna to an Monk also. There is also an brave apple here wich you should use.

    First battle on Granseal is an heavy one... the Bow Raider is the Boss of this bunch and Mudmen will keep appearing at some point. Be Aware of the Muddle and the battle can be won.
    Head east again to get to an Town where you will ress and Safe the game again.

    The Prism Flower battle awaits you and its even harder then the last battle.
    Ignore the Flowers as best as you can and get rid of alle the other enemys. The Executioner in the south is the Boss, when he dies you win so go for him^^

    Regroup and ress everybody then head on to find Geshp again. Geshp will introduce you to his Friend the Red Baron wich will be an ugly fight. Be Aware that the Baron can use Dessoul with his sword so dont bring Bowie near him or you will die. Again an battle tougher than the last one... but afterwards you gain acces to the last part of the game.

    head to Galam castle, sell the weapons of everyone who will get an mithrill weapon now and Save in teh Castle after ressing everybody who died. Get the Evil Shot and sell that as well.

    The Battleflied of the Baron has the Dwarfen village into it and you will go there nwo thanks to the Drytone. Forge Mithrill weapons (Usualy 7 weapons we have 8 mithrill if you are ok with youre weapons you can try to make an staff).

    Head back to Galam castle and leave it for south to find Geshp (again) but this time he will fight you. Geshp is no sissy when it comes to fighting he is an Greater devil after all with Ice4.
    In the Battle burst rocks will appear wich can trouble you but kill Geshp fast and everything will be fine.
    Head south to the Yewel shrine and defeat the big mouthed Hydra there to enter the Shrine.
    In the Shrine you will get the force sword (search to get it) and with it you will go to the Devils Head Statue to open the mouth with the sword. Lemon will join you (make sure you have an spot open for him).
    After the Maze you will fight Sir Odd Eye (or Oddler as we knew him) the last of the Greater Devils in Zeon Army. Oddler is an tough Fighter and the Daemons here with Bolt 2 are annoying as hell... Also the Wizzards with Ice 4 can be troublesome.
    after The battle head up the Tower and talk to Creed, ress and safe here.

    Now there is the Battle outside on the Tower, Stupid Battle with a lot of enemys where the Reaper on top is the Boss.
    Back into the Tower you will Face the Mad King Galam, years of Posessment by Zeons Daemons has made him strong and he is one tough Boss i can tell you...
    WheN Galam is defeatet Zeon will show up and the last battle will Rise, be sure to have the Powerring not on Bowie but to give him th healing Rain. Kill Everything before you try tu hurt Zeon, the Blue Shaman may drop another healing rain wich would be perfekt.

    After Zeon is death well the game is done^^ another Cutscene will run and you will wake up in youre old bed of the beginning of the game. To School again and into the Castle afterwards. Meet up wil Ellise and Congratulations on Finishing Shining force 2 (maybe also as an Speedrun^^)

    As an reference: my PB/WR Video http://www.twitch.tv/thorimgauser/c/3434496
    Last edited by ThorimGauser; 12-26-2013, 09:27 AM.

  • #2
    After this guide here are the Notes i use while running:
    They include the party and the Mithrill weapon choices


    -Granseal: Buy Sword, Spear, Jaha
    -Schrein: Mithril at mountain, Power water
    -Galam: Mithril in the pasage, everyone needs 1 free slot for the rod
    -Granseal: Escape mithril, Quick Chicken on Boat
    -New Grans: CheerfullBread, Sword, Axe, Spear, Rod (Sarah)
    -Ribble: Dagger, mithril in the Sandbox, May, (Bright Honey)
    -Dark Cave: SilverTank
    -Polca: Protect milk
    -Mt.Volcano: 2. Floor: Axe, Knife, Lance, Arrow, Sword, Rod
    3. Floor: Quick Ring ->Peter
    -GrandfathersCave:SteelSword->Luke
    -Ancient Cave: QuickKill try with Peter/Luke, Wood Pannels, Power Water
    -Hassan: Mithrill, RPiemento, Axe, Knife, Arrow, Powerstick
    -Hassan2: Rick, 2Swords, 2Spears, 2 Arrows, Glove (if sarah will be monk in Chess battle), sell Achilles
    -Elventown: SecretBook, VigorBall, FairyTear
    -Creed: Healing Rain, RunningRing, Karna, Brave apple in the passage to him
    -Dwarves: DryStone, Cannon
    -New Granseal:Asthral, Dynamite, 2Sword. 2 Arrow, Glove, (2)Lance, (Axe)
    -Pacalon: Arrows, Speare, Swords, Bread, Mithril on the way to Cameela
    -Tristan: (Lance), Gloves, Save
    -Shrine: PowerWater, CritSword, Mithril, (Taya)
    -Pacalon: Freyja ->Egress to Tristan
    -Moun: Caravan: leaving a spot for Freyja, Gyan, Running Piemento
    -Ship: Nazca Cannon
    -Dojo: Brave Apple, Vigor Ball
    -Dwarves: Weapons
    -Shrine->ForceSword->DaemonHead->Oddler->Tower->Galam->Zeon

    Party: (* stands for Mithril weapon)
    Bowie
    Peter
    Slade*
    Lemon* (Axe via Gyan)
    Chester*
    Karna*
    Sarah*
    Freyja
    Kazin
    Taya
    Elrick/Rohde*
    May*

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    • #3
      I am definitely going to use this. thanks a lot.

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      • #4
        Are you thinking of doing SF1? I wanna see that game being run. I know there is a 100% category, but I haven't found any Any% category speedruns.

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        • #5
          Shining Force 1 would be slightly harder to speed run as the bonuses per each level are a hell of a lot more random than in Shining Force 2

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          • #6
            I Have started on working on notes for SF1 but the game is awfull hard...
            Freakish RNG with almost EVERTHING and an EXP cut at levelup are the things that get me all the time.
            Its hard to manage the Levels in SF2 but in SF1 its an insane tast to manage all the EP for the group members so you dont waste too many...

            So Right now im Focusing a little bit more on SF2 100% wich would be All Characters, Mithrills (in mithrill or weaponform), Rings and Promotion Items...
            Personaly i think that such an run with decent RNG would then take up to 13.5 h....

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            • #7
              Damn that's long

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              • #8
                Seems pretty good time for me.


                For those that don't know how awful the RNG is in Shining Force I will try to explain it to you


                Gaining EXP is pretty easy enough. You get it by, of course, killing or simply damaging enemies. Of course you get more EXP for actually killing an enemy than by just damaging them. The Priests and Monks can also gain EXP by casting heal spells or the Detox spell for status effects. That's all fine and dandy, the problem comes when you level up.

                In Shining Force 2 when you gain a level you usually get at least 1 point in each stat, quite often 2 in some stats, rarely 3, and every now and then you can get a whopping 4 points to a stat. That's once in a blue moon though, but it can happen. Still, it's points across the board regardless and it quickly adds up to more than competent characters.

                Shining Force 1 however you aren't that lucky. Sometimes a level up can give you up to 6 points in a single stat, but totally neglect the others completely. Other times it's slightly more even. Then there are times when you get a single point in one stat. With some characters it's even possible to get a level and get, well, jack shit. And there's no rhyme or reason to these bonuses either.

                Example. Save the game right before a character levels up and let's say they get no stat bonus. Quitting the game, reloading and then getting the kill to level up the same character can give a whopping stat bonus. It makes no sense at all.

                Then comes the problem with promoting characters. When you get to level 10 (20 in Shining Force 2) you can promote them to a new class. In Shining Force 2 there's no real problem with that, but in Shining Force 1 your stats dip down a few points. So you want to end up trying to level a character up to 15, maybe even to the max 20 before promotion.

                As Thorim said, the randomness for Shining Force 1 makes plotting a course incredibly difficult as there's no consistency.

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